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Episode Discussion S3:E7---There's Bo Place Like Home
« on: March 03, 2013, 02:21:17 PM »
Episode Discussion S3:E7---There's Bo Place Like Home

Written by: Brendon Yorke
Directed by: Gail Harvey



There's Bo Place Like Home
Bo faces the daunting task of having to return to where it all started: down home on the farm. Accompanied by BFF Kenzi, Bo must face her old demons – and a new one – in order to clear the way for the path she will soon be forced to travel.

Episode Related Articles and Recaps:
Doccubus.com quick Recap  http://doccubus.com/2013/03/03/quick-recap-screencaps-of-tonights-episode-3-07/#more-2727
Snarker's Recap  http://www.afterellen.com/2013/03/lost-girl-recap-307-theres-bo-place-like-home?page=1%2C0
Spoiler.TV Poll  http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/03/poll-what-did-you-think-of-lost-girl.html
Showcase.ca Blog Recap  http://www.showcase.ca/blogs/885/lost-girl-307-goin-down-home

Review Sites:

Fear.net http://www.fearnet.com/news/review/tv-recap-lost-girl-episode-307-theres-bo-place-home
TV Equals http://www.tvequals.com/2013/03/05/lost-girl-season-3-review-theres-bo-place-like-home/
TV Fanatic http://www.tvfanatic.com/2013/03/lost-girl-review-theres-bo-place-like-home/
Syfy.com Discussion Thread http://forums.syfy.com/index.php?s=c53668223eae0abb109a46f5a92ba155&showtopic=2362451


ScreenCaps:  more on the doccubus.com recap page--also bigger thumbnails









Track List:
“Like An Animal” – Sunparlour Players
“T-Bone’s Jig” – Samantha Robichaud
“Lucky Lola” – Derek and the Darling
“On the Other Side (Underscore)” – Hungrytown
“Kitty Lie Over/Swallowtail” – Pint of Blarney
“Dance D’alayna” – APM Music, LLC
“Love and Other Disasters (Underscore)” – Rebecca Hosking
“Real Men Live In Trees” – Vandarth

Hats off to the Canuck
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Re: Episode Discussion S3:E7---There's Bo Place Like Home
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2013, 09:46:50 PM »
Well.  Thru the live chat-- Thanks Meg and Scoobs!  I heard it was an awesome Bo episode.  :-)  Nice work show.

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Re: Episode Discussion S3:E7---There's Bo Place Like Home
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2013, 09:50:40 PM »
So, we are finally there gang... that part of the story that might get a little tough for us. They had so much to do in this episode that it felt a little packed in. Each plot development had to fit in like a sardine in a can. The one Lauren scene we got gave us was even packed with it. They seem to be stacking those odds up for them as a couple. Question is will Bo and Lauren give the old human vs fae diatribe the finger and live their lives as they see fit? It would be in character for them.

Good god, glad Kenzi has such depth. They didn't just gloss over her experience.

Dyson is being a good guy vs Trick being a bit of a faetilist. Hoping that bit of plot comes it in the wash by the end of the season. If he jumps on the Lauren makes Bo happy bandwagon I might make him a party hat. Perhaps, there is a damn good reason.

Anna Silk... this woman has chops. She acted her face off in that come to Jesus scene.

Big question is what kind of wrench is Kenzi's explanation throw in the works and will Bo act instantaneously or angst over it, whatever her decision is, I hope we are happy little Doccubus fans by the end.of the season.

Oh angst.

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Re: Episode Discussion S3:E7---There's Bo Place Like Home
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2013, 11:34:28 PM »
We're FINALLY at the "revealing", even though everyone already knows.

When Bo and Lauren talk about Kenzi, and Bo denies that she knows why the kitsune (I hate how they butcher this word) targeted Kenzi, the way Lauren looks away and says "of course" makes it look like she has an inkling of why it happened. Looked like she was waiting for Bo to tell her that Dyson had his love back and Kenzi got it back for him, since she found out by faux-Kenzi.

I really hope Bo is playing dumb when she asks Kenzi about why she went to the Norn and not because she really can't put 2 and 2 together. She's probably waiting for Kenzi to come clean but is getting tired of her best friend constantly ignoring the problem and basically asks her point blank so she can't run away from it anymore. At least this is what I hope is happening...or else I'll lose any faith in Bo having any type of wit especially since she's a PI.

The actress that plays Bo's mom was phenomenal, so many subtle nuances in her face and the watery eyes, she was so good that I felt AS fell a bit short (just a tiny bit - still think it was done well). Glad they got the past over now and Bo can move on.

And geez, Trick is being such a human-hater this season, first with Kenzi and now with Lauren? I guess we just never saw the fae vs. human aspect much, and it's being brought to the forefront now. Waiting to see a clash between Trick & Bo regarding the value of human life.

Dyson is being very very very mature about the relationship, such a drastic change from S1 and S2 that it felt forced, I guess getting his love back made him mature 100+ years. But at least I don't hate his character anymore, he's acting his age!

Kenzi was HILARIOUS when she kept stabbing Bo with the needle. Can't stop laughing.
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Re: Episode Discussion S3:E7---There's Bo Place Like Home
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2013, 11:41:16 PM »
Wow, some powerful acting by Anna Silk in this ep. What is it with this show and kitchen scenes?

It was great to have the Kenzi that we all know and love back in action. There were so many great one-liners, even if she was using them to put on a brave facade.

I'm glad to see that Doccubus still lives on. Is it just me or did it look like they might have just had sex? Bo was getting dressed, Lauren was sitting on the bed and reading (although also dressed). It's pretty much the same setup as their post-make-up-sex in Lauren's living room in 3x04.

I think almost everyone in Doccubus camp is not liking Trick right now. I wasn't much of a fan of his condescending ways in 3x06, I'm much less of a fan of him after his short-term/long-term diatribe on this ep.

So, 3x08 is setting up to be the big reveal that Dyson has his love back. I think Bo is going to feel a bit betrayed that both Kenzi, Trick and Dyson know about this and have taken so long to tell her. While it could be reason for worry, I want to stay positive. This season has treated the doccubus relationship with a lot of respect so far, and have Bo run back to Dyson just doesn't fit on that trend.

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Re: Episode Discussion S3:E7---There's Bo Place Like Home
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2013, 11:50:09 PM »
Well, it is a tight epi. What impressed me are as follows.

1.Doccubus scence (o/c). Though I am disappointed that there is no make-up talk about the trust issue in last epi, I kind of predict it. Since they need to deal with more emergent things in this epi, there is no room for bo and lauren to fix the argument in screen. I guess my only hope is fanfic….anyway, the talk between bo and lauren in the epi fitted their characters. This is enough for me. One thing I noticed is that when they talk about kenzi’s problem, lauren turned her head away after hearing that bo had no idea about that. I am not sure whether it is because Lauren believed the false-kenzi’s words and thought bo knew dyson got his love back bbut hided it from her. Or, it is just a meaningless acting….

2.Trick said Lauren was human so the love between Bo and Lauren was only a short term thing. I don’t like this issue, but it is good that it was pointed out. I hope the major bump between Bo and Lauren is a problem between human and fae rather than a problem due to the presence of Dyson. Actually, I think to face and fight for the human/fae issue is more specific, more challenging and more interesting than to just hesitate for a normal triangle love problem which we can see in all other tv shows. BTW, the reaction of Dyson gave him more credit. I think that is what a person will do with a selfless love. Though I applaud for him, I do not want him in the way of Bo and Lauren. Doccubus is such a beautiful relationship. I don’t want to see it broken by easy reasons.

3.The last talk between Bo and her mom was so touching that I almost cried. Well done, Anna!

4.In the end, Bo finally asked Kenzi about the rash and norn. I am wondering whether Kenzi will tell her the truth. I hope she does. It is time to solve the love-back problem. I bet Bo will feel guilty, and can not wait to see her reaction. And I am wondering whether knowing Dyson gets his love back will play some role in dealing with her dawning. Will her path with either Lauren or Dyson be something she needs to face in the temple (they said Bo need to face sth about future…)?   
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Re: Episode Discussion S3:E7---There's Bo Place Like Home
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2013, 11:59:43 PM »

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2.Trick said Lauren was human so the love between Bo and Lauren was only a short term thing. I don’t like this issue, but it is good that it was pointed out. I hope the major bump between Bo and Lauren is a problem between human and fae rather than a problem due to the presence of Dyson. Actually, I think to face and fight for the human/fae issue is more specific, more challenging and more interesting than to just hesitate for a normal triangle love problem which we can see in all other tv shows. BTW, the reaction of Dyson gave him more credit. I think that is what a person will do with a selfless love. Though I applaud for him, I do not want him in the way of Bo and Lauren. Doccubus is such a beautiful relationship. I don’t want to see it broken by easy reasons.

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Agreed. I'd rather they hit the issue of Lauren's mortality head-on and address it now, to avoid the murmurings in the background.
I mean, the DyBots have been bringing this up since Bo and Lauren got together, that it doesn't matter that they're together because Lauren will die and Dyson will be there for Bo afterwards. To have Trick bring that up in such a disdainful way that gives NOBODY any warm and fuzzies just underscores how flawed the DyBots logic is.

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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2013, 01:13:01 AM »
Trick has been undermining humans on a few occasions this season. Going back to the fae>humans ideology. No matter how much Lauren and Kenzi will go through to help, they still will not be seen on the same level. Trick's character appears to have changed somewhat or perhaps he's always had this underlying trait hidden underneath but is now showing. Either way, it's quite unflattering.

A mature Dyson is easier to watch. He mentioned how his feelings for Bo will never go away. So this is going back to the wolves mate for life issue. If they do resolve this, as has been speculated, I hope it is done in a way that can bring closure to both Dyson and the fans.

This epi has brought back some Kenzi zingers. Was nice to see again, even with the underlying sadness and distance within her. KS played it well.

When Bo and Lauren were talking about Kenzi and the kitsune, was there meaning to it when Lauren looked away? It feels like it means something, or maybe I'm reading too much into it. Perhaps Lauren knows more than she's letting on. Will have to rewatch and ponder some more.

Bo's scene with her mother was nicely done. At least Bo got some closure from her nightmares of her past.

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Re: Episode Discussion S3:E7---There's Bo Place Like Home
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2013, 01:17:50 AM »
All drama aside, Kenzi / Bo have such funny moments together. I keep replaying the Kenzi stabbing Bo with the needle parts and how Bo just wails and hollers in pain. Guess Kenzi doesn't give great needle.

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Re: Episode Discussion S3:E7---There's Bo Place Like Home
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2013, 01:33:18 AM »
Hmm… Although it was interesting to see Bo's backstory and hometown, I thought this episode was a bit lacking in most areas.  For an episode that featured a heavy dose of Kenzi, to me, all her one-liners were missing the mark (with the exception of the cornfield reference… and all the needle stabbing). 

There is only one thing that REALLY stood out as EXCEPTIONAL in this episode.  That's the actress that played Bo's mom.  What an outstanding performance by this actress!!  The conversation at the dinner table was the one remarkable thing I walk away with from this episode.  Everything else was kinda… just okay.  And although Anna is a very talented actress, I have to think her performance in that scene was somehow aided or enhanced by the actress who played her mom.  Wow.

Dyson… yes, he is being much more mature about the whole love thing but I really can't feel much in the way of… sympathy for the guy.  I mean, he's a decent guy (when he wants to be and maybe losing his love will end up being a good thing for his character) but I'm still not there with this guy.  I don't feel sympathy for him.  I don't know what it is.  The writers, for me are not hitting it with Dyson.  I don't think it's because I'm Doccubus at heart because I've read fan fiction where I honestly REALLY LIKE Dyson.. and root for him.  They write a more… noble… more respectable version of him -- who yes, is still in love with Bo.  I can't explain it.  I'm just not there with this character in the show… and believe me I WANT TO BE.

Trick really surprised me with that statement about Lauren.  I'll have to watch that scene again to make sure I understood the sentiment correctly because once that came out of his mouth, I couldn't think of anything positive.  Did he say that in an attempt to cheer up Dyson?  I'll have to go back for a second look.

Bo… I liked that she confronted Kenzi at the end.  I LOVE that actually.  I don't know why.  Maybe because I want this whole Dyson-got-his-love-back out in the open already.  Truthfully, I think Bo already knows.  I think she's put two and two together.  You can see it in her eyes when she's talking to Lauren on the bed when Lauren asks if she knows why the Kitsune targeted Kenzi.  She's keeping something from Lauren… and perhaps Lauren knows it too.

Doccubus… what can I say?  I love these two.  They could be talking about the lifecycle of a dung beetle and I'd be mesmerized.  I'm disappointed we didn't get to see them talk about what happened in the previous episode.  It seemed like such a big deal in 3x06 that not having the talk -- AGAIN seems a bit jarring.  But I guess this is something we have to fill-in ourselves.

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Re: Episode Discussion S3:E7---There's Bo Place Like Home
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2013, 01:53:24 AM »
All drama aside, Kenzi / Bo have such funny moments together. I keep replaying the Kenzi stabbing Bo with the needle parts and how Bo just wails and hollers in pain. Guess Kenzi doesn't give great needle.

That was ridiculously funny. Especially the first time when Bo was just ranting and not devolving.

On another note, thought it was pretty idiotic for that Brad guy to stick half his body underneath his car to change a tire. Yeah, the tire was stuck but still, never had to go under my car to get the tires changed.

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Re: Episode Discussion S3:E7---There's Bo Place Like Home
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2013, 02:17:48 AM »

On another note, thought it was pretty idiotic for that Brad guy to stick half his body underneath his car to change a tire. Yeah, the tire was stuck but still, never had to go under my car to get the tires changed.

I thought that too, no sensible person would do that...but then I think of all the stupid people in the world...and yes, people are dumb enough to do that. So it didn't bother me too much except the initial WTH IS WRONG WITH YOU thing.

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There is only one thing that REALLY stood out as EXCEPTIONAL in this episode.  That's the actress that played Bo's mom.  What an outstanding performance by this actress!!  The conversation at the dinner table was the one remarkable thing I walk away with from this episode.  Everything else was kinda… just okay.  And although Anna is a very talented actress, I have to think her performance in that scene was somehow aided or enhanced by the actress who played her mom.  Wow.

Agree. She was AMAZING. I really felt her emotions, she was so good that AS wasn't as impressive in the scene. And the last part, where she says Bo instead of Beth...I could feel her acceptance for her daughter, and the deep sorrow that she knew she was never going to see Bo again.

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Trick has been undermining humans on a few occasions this season. Going back to the fae>humans ideology. No matter how much Lauren and Kenzi will go through to help, they still will not be seen on the same level. Trick's character appears to have changed somewhat or perhaps he's always had this underlying trait hidden underneath but is now showing. Either way, it's quite unflattering.

Trick's been on my nerves this season. I'm just unsure if he was always like this and we never saw it or the writers decided to make him a bigot to underline the difference in fae and human and giving us more view through the eyes of fae towards humans. It was briefly seen through Hale's father with Kenzi, but we all knew he was jackass so it wasn't a surprise there. Trick's anti-human sentiments are far more pronounced now, not sure why they're doing this other than Bo is now with Lauren so they're highlighting this fact more.
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2013, 02:23:35 AM »
Speaking of the guy under the car... I find it funny how, had this been a horror movie like Final Destination, there would be a lot more gore and blood when the guy got squished by the car. Wherea's here, all we got was a *thud* and I was like "Uh... Is he dead?"

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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2013, 03:20:09 AM »

Can't help but notice that I'm watching these eps and having far fewer questions and "huh?" moments afterwards.  The storytelling is so much tighter and more focused than last season and there is a mounting sense of dread still going on.  I'm liking this a lot.  I'm liking that there is a story arc, liking that it revisits past aspects of the story again.  I'm liking that they make space in each ep for the meta plot to breathe so it doesn't feel rushed.

The scenes between Bo and her Mom were heartbreaking.  And we see, again, Anna being such a generous actor - her performance is full of anguish but kind of quiet, just right for a woman who has got used to holding these feelings inside.  And in contrast the actor playing her mom is given room to really shine - and she does. 

I admit to eyes running in that last scene of them together.  That Bo can only find peace that way is so damned sad, that the woman herself - in contrast to the outburst she has - also seems much more at peace in her memories is harrowing.  That she mentions that she and Bo's dad talk about Bo and the butterfly, in the present tense, indicating that she has forgotten that he died was kind of it...I cried at that bit.

The Fae nasty of the week was kind of cool.  I liked the mood and tone of her, and the method used for her coming with the light effects.  Huge kudos to the DP and director and those who worked that really understated but super effective method.  She was creepy.  I loved that the kids had a skipping song.  The whole ep looked pretty good to me.

Liked seeing Bo and Kenzi together.  Is clear these two women love one another.  Ksenia's ability to change gear between impish and introspective is impressive.

Now.  The problem I had with this ep?  Dyson.  Stop being such a fucking emo jackass.  Really.  Either give the character a story or write him out but him hanging around the place doing an Eeyore "Woe is me" act is both irritating and dull.  Boring.  Pathetic.  We all meet someone who matters to us but whom we cannot be with and we all learn to deal with it - in 1000 years he never figured that out and just sits under his fucking thunder cloud?

Sack the fuck up, please.

He makes me so bloody angry.  I see no narrative value in this crap at all, other than to pander to doe-eyed Twitards who took a wrong turn to the show.  How many minutes did we burn watching him navel gaze and snivel?

After 7 eps, the character is still a mess.  He has literally done NOTHING in the show of any value whatsoever other than add a bit of exposition here and there - a task that could just as easily be performed by a co-star of the week.

Trick's comment about Lauren's mortality?  Didn't bother me to be honest.  Yes, it was a bit of a  blunt object.  But it was also stating the obvious for those who don't seem to have grasped this fact and need the Cliff Notes.  I didn't read it as disdainful, it is a truism.

The scene with Lauren?  Shame there was only one but I can concede that is because I - personally - adore both character and actor.  Taking a step back from that, I recognise that this wasn't an episode that she necessarily had a place in and if it is all about the story, and it is, then I don't know that she could have added much.  So while my personal feeling is to feel peeved I didn't get to see her this week, it was critical to the character of Bo to put some more flesh on her bones and tell the story.

That Lauren is there is listen to and talk to Bo is important and worthy.  And, yet again, it is Lauren's contribution that you could argue tips the battle in Bo's favour - injecting Lady Polly to weaken her so she could be defeated by a Bo who was otherwise unarmed and a little vulnerable.

Lauren provides information, offers a solution, backs up Bo rather than overwhelming or diminishing her.  And Lauren listens to her and lets her speak, with a sympathetic and kind ear.  The scene was full of "no hard feelings" from 306, no contained or concealed grudges.  Just a moment together to talk - I don't suppose that will be recognised or appreciated by all.  But if you can't talk, you've got nothing.

Liked the ep.  The women shined, as they often do, and remained as the heart of the show.  The men?  Wow.  This show really has a problem writing interesting behaviours for the guys.  I mean...should I care that Trick got game?  Of all the things this character is and knows, watching him chase skirt?  Really?  Oh, come on.

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Re: Episode Discussion S3:E7---There's Bo Place Like Home
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2013, 03:46:55 AM »
The point of all of this.  Was to forgive yourself.  The succubus went to forgive her mother...but really. Bo had to absolve herself.  Nicely played Lost Girl.

God Gail can direct an episode.  Those panned long shots on in that intimate bedroom scene where Bo/Lauren were talking were awesome.    The outdoorzy stuff... MMMMMHPF.  Wind in the grass, the little things that really pull you into the surroundings.  There was alot of care in the shots.

The Doccubus stuff in that bedroom scene blew me away.  But it always does.  ZP and AS foil like magic.  I loved the subtle movements of the 3 head turns by Lauren, not wanting to face the issue of Dyson's love... and whether Bo knew or not.  She's generous, and has little needles to fix the succubus from, I dunno... DEEVOLVING.

Try doing that wolfman?  No?  What did you help with this episode?  oh right.  Yaking with trick about how mortals die.  I forgot how helpful that is.

This thing was actually my favorite out of the entire season.  For alot of reasons, but mainly because it pulled everything together--> arc, meta, characterization growth.  It felt like the old Lost Girl too with Kenzi and Bo running off on their adventures.    I've missed Kenzi and it's been killing the show to have her quips pulled by Tamsin and having her play out "odd man" for the last 6 episodes. 

Anna Silk knocked it out of the park-->  It was a fine line performance of touching the stuff that hurts your core, and letting it go.  BAMF for Bo as a succubus....   Well written paralleled reconciliation that looks just like adjusted gay folks coming home to put it behind them, with the people they loved and still love.   Not lost on anyone, unless you don't understand the context.  This show is 50% silly and then SLAM!  They put in the heavy.  And it is deep waters. 

I am glad they are finally addressing the human/fae relationship context.  Grandpa and Dyson have lived more than a millenia.  Time is different for them.  It doesn't bother me that they say this... just that they slide it off as "simply" short term.  There was some brush off there.  She's just a human.  It's true.  But, not in how Bo sees the world.  Not quite yet.  This mortality stuff is a 2x4 and we are going to get hit with it alot, I think, over the next 6 episodes.

Dyson doesn't bother me.  But it is true that he has been more than useless this entire season.  "saving" Bo from situations she was more than capable of handling.  Otherwise... it's cry cry cry.  My love is back.    I know he can't "help" it cause wolves mate for life.  Snort.  But.  Christ.  Please writers...end this.  Or do something with it so he's not a wet towel for the rest of the show.  It's making my jaw hurt.

The secret hopefully will be out.  And.  We will see what happens.


In the meantime, I leave you with this.

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